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		<title>Comment on Research project by Men, Murder, and &#8230;. Metrosexuality? Masculinity in a Mediatized Age &#124; Hate 2.0: Combating Right-Wing Extremism in the Age of Social Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Men, Murder, and &#8230;. Metrosexuality? Masculinity in a Mediatized Age &#124; Hate 2.0: Combating Right-Wing Extremism in the Age of Social Technology</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Demos think tank&#8217;s report on radical movements in the UK and Canada. Doctoral students like Ov Cristian Norocel are hard at work interrogating the construction of radical right populist masculinities in east [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The True Finns: Facing True Responsibilities and Acting Like True Finnish Men?! by O Cristian Norocel</title>
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		<dc:creator>O Cristian Norocel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 10:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moi Jaakko ja kiitos paljon kommentista! I did not know that Homma took an interest in my writing, I had the impression that they are solely concerned with what is written in Finnish (and at times in Swedish). But this does not change the tone and focus of my blog. I have learned to know Finland and have gotten very attached to the country, and I was very saddened by this xenophobic turn. It has never been easy to be different in Finland, but now it seems the situation is becoming unbearable. By writing in English and giving interviews to the foreign media (Finnish media has ignored me so far) I hope to draw attention to this issues and also underline that there are still people who believe in tolerant coexistence and multilingualism. With regard to the discussions in here, the comments are tightly moderated, as I refuse to turn my website to a place of unreasonable and heated arguments and mindless hatred. Alas, all rational comments and insights are more than welcomed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moi Jaakko ja kiitos paljon kommentista! I did not know that Homma took an interest in my writing, I had the impression that they are solely concerned with what is written in Finnish (and at times in Swedish). But this does not change the tone and focus of my blog. I have learned to know Finland and have gotten very attached to the country, and I was very saddened by this xenophobic turn. It has never been easy to be different in Finland, but now it seems the situation is becoming unbearable. By writing in English and giving interviews to the foreign media (Finnish media has ignored me so far) I hope to draw attention to this issues and also underline that there are still people who believe in tolerant coexistence and multilingualism. With regard to the discussions in here, the comments are tightly moderated, as I refuse to turn my website to a place of unreasonable and heated arguments and mindless hatred. Alas, all rational comments and insights are more than welcomed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The True Finns: Facing True Responsibilities and Acting Like True Finnish Men?! by Jaakko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaakko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 09:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salut! Aveţi unele scrieri foarte interesante!

Have to read them through more carefully when I have more time. Not many comments though? Would be nice to see some discussion here.

Actually I got the link to your blog from Homma forum :D

We are experiencing interesting times. Every other moment I feel quite disappointed in my nation and all the racism that exists. Every other moment I feel things are, dispite of Persut, going forward and towards a better direction, more acceptance of difference etc. Let&#039;s see. I guess we just have to get more active each of us in this fight against intolerance and conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut! Aveţi unele scrieri foarte interesante!</p>
<p>Have to read them through more carefully when I have more time. Not many comments though? Would be nice to see some discussion here.</p>
<p>Actually I got the link to your blog from Homma forum <img src='http://www.norocel.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We are experiencing interesting times. Every other moment I feel quite disappointed in my nation and all the racism that exists. Every other moment I feel things are, dispite of Persut, going forward and towards a better direction, more acceptance of difference etc. Let&#8217;s see. I guess we just have to get more active each of us in this fight against intolerance and conservatism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Prekariat &#8211; the Radical Right Populist Parties&#8217; Voter Base? by O Cristian Norocel</title>
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		<dc:creator>O Cristian Norocel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Peter for your very insightful comment. Indeed, it took some time before I decided to write this down, precisely because what prekariat used to embody in sociological studies a social critique. To mark a departure from that was precisely my intention when I emphasized the &quot;perceived&quot; thus highly subjective nature of precariousness of the middle classes especially. But you are right, I am not sure how persuasive is this new term, but I felt the need to look for something that can more accurately describe this heterogeneity of backgrounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Peter for your very insightful comment. Indeed, it took some time before I decided to write this down, precisely because what prekariat used to embody in sociological studies a social critique. To mark a departure from that was precisely my intention when I emphasized the &#8220;perceived&#8221; thus highly subjective nature of precariousness of the middle classes especially. But you are right, I am not sure how persuasive is this new term, but I felt the need to look for something that can more accurately describe this heterogeneity of backgrounds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Prekariat &#8211; the Radical Right Populist Parties&#8217; Voter Base? by Peter Ucen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Ucen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cristian, Obviously, you are looking for an overarching term for PRR supporters vis-a-vis necessity to list various groups of what you found out is a pretty heterogeneous bunch... I am a bit skeptical here. Prekariat is a term originating from sociology - I have come across is several times in case of leftist, socially critical authors. It usually refers to the uncertainty of contracts and the jobs of (lower) middle class being disposable. It is right that the fact of being the member of that group is not a cause for developing a preference for PRR. In this sense, perceived precariousness is really better approach, but I am afraid that prekariat will only become another group you have to list when talking about the PRR support base. Namely, its middle class component. The middle class is nowadays torn between a(n old) dream of rising up to the higher class and the(ever more probable)fear of being pauperised and relegated to the lower class. Under certain conditions the latter may cause the preference for the PRR (or other parties outside of the mainstream). Precariousness is certainly an important part of an explanation of the middle-class sources of the &quot;weird&quot; parties&#039; support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cristian, Obviously, you are looking for an overarching term for PRR supporters vis-a-vis necessity to list various groups of what you found out is a pretty heterogeneous bunch&#8230; I am a bit skeptical here. Prekariat is a term originating from sociology &#8211; I have come across is several times in case of leftist, socially critical authors. It usually refers to the uncertainty of contracts and the jobs of (lower) middle class being disposable. It is right that the fact of being the member of that group is not a cause for developing a preference for PRR. In this sense, perceived precariousness is really better approach, but I am afraid that prekariat will only become another group you have to list when talking about the PRR support base. Namely, its middle class component. The middle class is nowadays torn between a(n old) dream of rising up to the higher class and the(ever more probable)fear of being pauperised and relegated to the lower class. Under certain conditions the latter may cause the preference for the PRR (or other parties outside of the mainstream). Precariousness is certainly an important part of an explanation of the middle-class sources of the &#8220;weird&#8221; parties&#8217; support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Prekariat &#8211; the Radical Right Populist Parties&#8217; Voter Base? by O Cristian Norocel</title>
		<link>http://www.norocel.eu/?p=703&#038;cpage=1#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>O Cristian Norocel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Toby, in the sociological sense of the term I am myself a member of the aforesaid prekariat - I do not have a work contract but some funding entity and my financial (well)being depends on the fancies of this funding institution. However, I am not a RRP supporter. 

My point was that in the case of RRP supporters we see a strong reference to a &quot;perceived precariousness&quot; which may or may not overlap with effective precariousness. Take for instance the city dwellers in a rather well-off neighbourhood in a city with a migrant population who need not experience precariousness as an effect of globalization processes per se (temporary job contracts, unemployment, higher social costs, immigrant infractionality) but they may have &quot;perceived&quot; themselves as victims of precariousness and as such end up in the reassuring arms of RRP politicians.

And Jan, well this is the puzzling part I must admit. While sections of the proletariat do experience precariousness firsthand, the RRP parties gather votes also from those who see themselves threatened by a possible condition of precarity that may arise in the not so distant future. So perhaps you are right, insecurity is culturally loaded and politically exploited by these parties. I do research on the parties themselves, but at times I am surprised by the heterogeneity of those who vote for them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Toby, in the sociological sense of the term I am myself a member of the aforesaid prekariat &#8211; I do not have a work contract but some funding entity and my financial (well)being depends on the fancies of this funding institution. However, I am not a RRP supporter. </p>
<p>My point was that in the case of RRP supporters we see a strong reference to a &#8220;perceived precariousness&#8221; which may or may not overlap with effective precariousness. Take for instance the city dwellers in a rather well-off neighbourhood in a city with a migrant population who need not experience precariousness as an effect of globalization processes per se (temporary job contracts, unemployment, higher social costs, immigrant infractionality) but they may have &#8220;perceived&#8221; themselves as victims of precariousness and as such end up in the reassuring arms of RRP politicians.</p>
<p>And Jan, well this is the puzzling part I must admit. While sections of the proletariat do experience precariousness firsthand, the RRP parties gather votes also from those who see themselves threatened by a possible condition of precarity that may arise in the not so distant future. So perhaps you are right, insecurity is culturally loaded and politically exploited by these parties. I do research on the parties themselves, but at times I am surprised by the heterogeneity of those who vote for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Prekariat &#8211; the Radical Right Populist Parties&#8217; Voter Base? by Jan Dobbernack</title>
		<link>http://www.norocel.eu/?p=703&#038;cpage=1#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Dobbernack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Cristian, this is very interesting. I’ve recently been quite interested in Robert Castel on Poujadisme in France and on the FN in this tradition. But reading his stuff and now your post made me think about the place of ideology in all this—I haven’t gotten very far admittedly, but maybe there’s one point worth saying (or putting as a question): how useful is the concern with socio-economic positions for getting to the bottom of the appeal of RRP? 

What you hint at with ‘perceived precariousness’, it seems to me, is that insecurity has become and is mediated as a broader cultural experience. The ideas that articulate a sense of loss have appeal across classes or socio-economic backgrounds, not only to those who actually have lost out or face a material risk of doing so. Indeed, quite a few of the new populisms that I can think of, the various Europhobic movements in Britain or the new illiberal-liberal Islamophobia all across Europe, can draw on cross-class support and quite significant support among socio-economic and intellectual ‘elites’. So if the notion of precariousness can still play a role in explaining this stuff, wouldn’t it be necessary to look at how ideas of insecurity and decline really capture the imagination of various audiences, rather than just speaking to some populations that we define as particularly ‘vulnerable’ to those ideas? Looking at the relevant movements, wouldn’t this make more empirical sense? So I suppose this would mean paying attention to ideas and to the way insecurity and precariousness have become fairly pervasive cultural experiences, not matter what socio-economic position you look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Cristian, this is very interesting. I’ve recently been quite interested in Robert Castel on Poujadisme in France and on the FN in this tradition. But reading his stuff and now your post made me think about the place of ideology in all this—I haven’t gotten very far admittedly, but maybe there’s one point worth saying (or putting as a question): how useful is the concern with socio-economic positions for getting to the bottom of the appeal of RRP? </p>
<p>What you hint at with ‘perceived precariousness’, it seems to me, is that insecurity has become and is mediated as a broader cultural experience. The ideas that articulate a sense of loss have appeal across classes or socio-economic backgrounds, not only to those who actually have lost out or face a material risk of doing so. Indeed, quite a few of the new populisms that I can think of, the various Europhobic movements in Britain or the new illiberal-liberal Islamophobia all across Europe, can draw on cross-class support and quite significant support among socio-economic and intellectual ‘elites’. So if the notion of precariousness can still play a role in explaining this stuff, wouldn’t it be necessary to look at how ideas of insecurity and decline really capture the imagination of various audiences, rather than just speaking to some populations that we define as particularly ‘vulnerable’ to those ideas? Looking at the relevant movements, wouldn’t this make more empirical sense? So I suppose this would mean paying attention to ideas and to the way insecurity and precariousness have become fairly pervasive cultural experiences, not matter what socio-economic position you look at.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Prekariat &#8211; the Radical Right Populist Parties&#8217; Voter Base? by Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first heard the term &#039;precariat&#039; a couple of years ago and was told it comes form Japan - this Japan Times story might be the origin of that: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621f2.html Do you know if they took the idea from one of the sociologists you cite, or whether the term was coined separately there and means something a bit different?

I guess it depends on what it means, as to whether it helps describe the RRP&#039;s voter base. I had always supposed that the precariat I see in Finland for example would be core Green voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first heard the term &#8216;precariat&#8217; a couple of years ago and was told it comes form Japan &#8211; this Japan Times story might be the origin of that: <a href="http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621f2.html">http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621f2.html</a> Do you know if they took the idea from one of the sociologists you cite, or whether the term was coined separately there and means something a bit different?</p>
<p>I guess it depends on what it means, as to whether it helps describe the RRP&#8217;s voter base. I had always supposed that the precariat I see in Finland for example would be core Green voters.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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